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Ben Carson for President 1 year 9 months ago #53789

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I would like to remind you that Ben Carson is another person who lives on this earth, who has had the idea to lead the country. What is the big fuss?

Also, as the law states, there is religious freedom, which means that he is technically free to go to church, and also he must have a free day off, right?

And Carson will not be the first person who has met this Sabbath problem. Thousands of SDA's have worked at secular jobs, or situations, and God took care of the rest. Wait a sec...... that's it GOD TAKES CARE OF IT. It is NOT OUR JOB to worry about Carson. According to the book, he has had quite a life that has deepened his faith. So all that we have to do is wait for a sign from God showing if He approves or disapproves of Carson's decision.

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Ben Carson for President 1 year 9 months ago #53854

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the bible says the us is the 2nd beast which forces people to worship the beast. sda's believe that there will be a global sunday law, which will be enforced. the us president will have to help enforce that law. ben carson, if elected, would be in that position, compromising his beliefs, and helping fulfill the mark of the beast prophecy. he has already compromised his beliefs by campaigning on the sabbath. people are starting to laugh at adventists because of carsons antics. :S
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 9 months ago #53936

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jon01 wrote:
the bible says the us is the 2nd beast which forces people to worship the beast. sda's believe that there will be a global sunday law, which will be enforced. the us president will have to help enforce that law. ben carson, if elected, would be in that position, compromising his beliefs, and helping fulfill the mark of the beast prophecy. he has already compromised his beliefs by campaigning on the sabbath. people are starting to laugh at adventists because of carsons antics. :S

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Ben Carson for President 1 year 9 months ago #53938

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@InspiredThinker- I'm somewhat concerned by your claim that because we believe church and state will unite in the USA, we shouldn't act to prevent it. Thats like saying because the Bible predicts famines and pestilences in the last day we shouldn't work to prevent thse events from occuring or help the people suffering when they do occur. While the prophecies are clear, we have an individual moral obligation to live out our Christianity. We have an obligation to work for the best interest of our respective countries and humanity in general. If Ben Carson is truly wanting the best for America and humanity I general, then is see no such contradiction in his beliefs. Believing what we do about the world's future doesn't absolve us from acting in the best interest for everybody.

I see your point, tim33. What I mean is not necessarily that we shouldn't act to prevent it, but that we shouldn't act like it isn't going to happen. Carson believes what has already begun can be avoided. Therein lies the problem. Like you said, we do have an obligation to live out our Christianity, but we can't put on rose-colored glasses, deceive ourselves, and hope for the best.
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 9 months ago #53940

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Skite wrote:
1) I have not said anything against EGW on this site.

2) The most visible example of Dr. Carson campaigning on Sabbath was in May of this year. ktfnews.com/ben-carson-gives-political-speech-on-sabbath/

3)Being the true church does not exempt us from inconsistent standards, and does not mean we can never forfeit that position (1 Corinthians 10:12). Ellen White even described the SDA Church as "enfeebled and defective". One of the reasons we look so earnestly to the coming of Jesus is the fact that when He comes, He will make us, His church," without spot or wrinkle, and holy and without blemish (Ephesians 5:27)".

4) It is clear that we are living in the last days, and Carson is contradicting himself by aspiring for presidency. We as Seventh-day Adventists believe that the United States will cease to become a country of religious freedom and begin to persecute those who refuse the Mark of the Beast. We believe that we as Adventists will be among those persecuted. Dr. Carson's self-contradiction has been noticed by many journalists, and this will eventually be brought to the front.




Being President is a job, right? So if Ben is going into a secular area, and you are saying he shouldn't, than that would mean he should not have gotten into John Hopkins, cause that is a secular hospital, and that every other Adventist in the world cannot enter and work in secular places.

Is that what you are saying?[/quote]

No. There is a difference between medical workers providing care on the Sabbath and Dr. Carson's campaigning on the Sabbath. While doctors and nurses clearly help others and do good when they are called to work on Sabbaths, who is Dr. Carson helping when he campaigns on Sabbath?
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 9 months ago #54095

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@InspiredThinker I agree with you there- however I would have thought Ben Carson would definitely believe in the actuality of the combination of church and state. I may be wrong, but to the best of my knowledge he does believe it although he obviously recognises there is no time frame surrounding it and he isn't therefore acting against the belief or reality, just in line with other just as strongly held beliefs and values. I see no contradiction.
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 8 months ago #54568

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@skite the news
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 8 months ago #54569

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@ skite and the bible
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 8 months ago #54637

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jon01 wrote:
@skite the news

What news? And you can't always trust the news.
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 8 months ago #54669

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I have reasons to support him.
1. He is a humble man.
2. He can "make America great again".
3. He is well respected.
4. He will revive our country.
5. His tax plan is 14% of income which will build our country's economy.
6. He believes in education

Not to support him:
1. Prophecy
2. Sabbath

As I said before, I am not on a side. In some ways, I believe he should be president, and vice versa.

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Ben Carson for President 1 year 8 months ago #55573

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Not sure if I've commented on this already, but I don't see a problem with Ben Carson being president, I really like him a lot, just not sure if he should. I've been following the whole 2016 race though! For some reason I'm really obsessed with the debates. XD
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 7 months ago #56331

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Did you hear?
Ben Carson dropped out because of the super Tuesday results.

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Ben Carson for President 1 year 7 months ago #56334

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well, I guess you guys should know by now...that Ben Carson is no longer in the lead. He has fallen back. We don't know if he has given up yep but I think that we should just pray that God's will be done. If God wants Ben Carson to win, then he will allow it. if not then God will do the opposite.
I have meet Ben Carson btw...Lol :cheer: :lol: :woohoo: He is a good guy.


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sekayi_101 wrote:
well, I guess you guys should know by now...that Ben Carson is no longer in the lead. He has fallen back. We don't know if he has given up yep but I think that we should just pray that God's will be done. If God wants Ben Carson to win, then he will allow it. if not then God will do the opposite.
I have meet Ben Carson btw...Lol :cheer: :lol: :woohoo: He is a good guy.

After many staggering losses, Dr. Carson announced yesterday that he would be dropping out. There is speculation that he will instead be running for Florida's open Senate seat, which I have no problem with.
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 7 months ago #56448

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InspiredThinker wrote:
After many staggering losses, Dr. Carson announced yesterday that he would be dropping out. There is speculation that he will instead be running for Florida's open Senate seat, which I have no problem with.
Why aren’t you against Carson running for the Florida senate? I presumed that Ellen White’s words about Seventh-Day Adventists not meddling with
politics would span from being a president or any lesser magistrate. What’s the difference?
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 7 months ago #56487

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Prov, this is not President, this is being Senator, dont you see the difference? Anyways, it was a good talk everyone, this debate on Adventist relations with the world, how we think it should be, and that we could share our opinions. InspiredThinker, forgive me for acting......a bit brash, for lack of a better word. Now we hope that all goes well. And it appears that Ben is now supporting his former rival, Donald Trump. What do we say about that? ANYWAYS HAPPY SABBATH!
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BEN CARSON ENDORSED DONALD TRUMP!!!


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Prov, this is not President, this is being Senator, dont you see the difference? Anyways, it was a good talk everyone, this debate on Adventist relations with the world, how we think it should be, and that we could share our opinions. InspiredThinker, forgive me for acting......a bit brash, for lack of a better word. Now we hope that all goes well. And it appears that Ben is now supporting his former rival, Donald Trump. What do we say about that? ANYWAYS HAPPY SABBATH!
I am prepared for haters.....
I support his decision. DON'T GET MAD AT ME!
Reasons:
1. The "Elephant" will use Carson's healthcare plans because he doesn't have his own.
2. Ben Carson said:
There are two Donald Trumps. The one who you see on TV and the one who is a thinker.
(Or something like that.)
And others. If anyone wants to debate me, Monday's debate(Mar 21) has been cancelled.
Anyway........................

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Ben Carson for President 1 year 7 months ago #56602

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Next time you’re out in public yell “OBAMA FOR 3RD TERM! DONALD TRUMP FOR VP!” and see how many people hunt you down. :D
Every time you run into a spider web, pretend its a finish line. It's kinda hard to be terrified when you're too busy being a champion.
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 7 months ago #56616

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Can we all just hope and pray that Trump or Clinton wont win :S
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yay! Go Trump! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
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I can't believe that Ben Carson has dropped out and is supporting Donald Trump!
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Its all messed up............
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Let me love for the lost
Let me lose all I have
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Let me live to give you praise
Lord, let me praise you
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Ben Carson for President 1 year 6 months ago #56721

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It's surprising that Ben Carson dropped out of the race but I kind of figured it would happen sooner or later. And disapointing that now he is endorsing Trump... Didn't see that one coming.
2 Timothy 4:7- I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.


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Ben Carson for President 1 year 6 months ago #56727

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Sorry, but I have to say I'm glad I'm in New Zealand and not having to worry so much about all the politics... Then again I guess it will affect us over here, especially during end times!!!
Try being informed instead of just opinionated...
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