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A while back, I noticed that there was a discussion about Feminism. I was just wondering, do you think that it is possible to be a feminist and a Christian? Why or why not? I'd love to know that you think!  |
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Catchild77 wrote:
Hi guys! Yes, only when you're not overzealous.A while back, I noticed that there was a discussion about Feminism. I was just wondering, do you think that it is possible to be a feminist and a Christian? Why or why not? I'd love to know that you think! This also applies to similar areas. |
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I think it's definitely ok to support women's rights and whatnot, and be a Christian at the same time. The problem is being the type of feminist who believes all men have ulterior motives.
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Khriz Kool Katz wrote:
Catchild77 wrote:
Very true, Khriz, very true! Hi guys! Yes, only when you're overzealous.A while back, I noticed that there was a discussion about Feminism. I was just wondering, do you think that it is possible to be a feminist and a Christian? Why or why not? I'd love to know that you think! This also applies to similar areas. |
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sci_geeek wrote:
I think it's definitely ok to support women's rights and whatnot, and be a Christian at the same time. The problem is being the type of feminist who believes all men have ulterior motives. I agree, sci_geeek! I personally identify as a feminist because I believe that men and women should have the same rights in society and the workplace.I believe that God supports women's rights, too. Sometimes, I just feel confused when Paul talks about women in the New Testament acting submissively towards their husbands and other things... |
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Catchild77 wrote:
Khriz Kool Katz wrote:
Just so you know, I meant "not overzealous". That ubfortunately was a typo. :/ Catchild77 wrote:
Very true, Khriz, very true!Hi guys! Yes, only when you're overzealous.A while back, I noticed that there was a discussion about Feminism. I was just wondering, do you think that it is possible to be a feminist and a Christian? Why or why not? I'd love to know that you think! This also applies to similar areas. |
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sci_geeek wrote:
I think it's definitely ok to support women's rights and whatnot, and be a Christian at the same time. The problem is being the type of feminist who believes all men have ulterior motives. I agree. Difference in sex does not mean one sex is superior or inferior to the other. |
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Catchild77 wrote:
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Marriage is supposed to be a give-and-take thing from both sides of it. The husband and wife are to both make sacrifices for each other. That's the gist of it.I think it's definitely ok to support women's rights and whatnot, and be a Christian at the same time. The problem is being the type of feminist who believes all men have ulterior motives. I agree, sci_geeek! I personally identify as a feminist because I believe that men and women should have the same rights in society and the workplace.I believe that God supports women's rights, too. Sometimes, I just feel confused when Paul talks about women in the New Testament acting submissively towards their husbands and other things... Also, understand that in those cultures, males tended to be more dominant, since most of that lifestyle depended upon them and their posterity, which they said came from males. |
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I've only done a little research on feminism, so I can't really give a well-informed answer. But I agree that men and women were made under God to be equal.
How far the the feminism movement takes it . . . I'm not sure I agree with that. Also, (unpopular opinion. Ach, I've already gotten into debate about this *facepalm*) I support men's rights in a way. In modern days, there's a lot of emphasis on supporting women, and that's great. But I also believe everyone should have a voice, and with the amount of support for women and minorities, I think that's tipping the scales and not giving men enough of a safe space and support. |
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BookwormJo wrote:
I've only done a little research on feminism, so I can't really give a well-informed answer. But I agree that men and women were made under God to be equal. Men's rights is a given. Minorities do need to have their voice heard and be shown the respect each person has and deserves. How far the the feminism movement takes it . . . I'm not sure I agree with that. Also, (unpopular opinion. Ach, I've already gotten into debate about this *facepalm*) I support men's rights in a way. In modern days, there's a lot of emphasis on supporting women, and that's great. But I also believe everyone should have a voice, and with the amount of support for women and minorities, I think that's tipping the scales and not giving men enough of a safe space and support. |
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Hmm, I don’t the feminist movement is a very good one. But they do make some good points.
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Hmm, I don’t the feminist movement is a very good one. But they do make some good points. There has to be a balance in our society. |
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BookwormJo wrote:
I've only done a little research on feminism, so I can't really give a well-informed answer. But I agree that men and women were made under God to be equal. Yep, makes sense How far the the feminism movement takes it . . . I'm not sure I agree with that. Also, (unpopular opinion. Ach, I've already gotten into debate about this *facepalm*) I support men's rights in a way. In modern days, there's a lot of emphasis on supporting women, and that's great. But I also believe everyone should have a voice, and with the amount of support for women and minorities, I think that's tipping the scales and not giving men enough of a safe space and support. |
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Hmm, I don’t the feminist movement is a very good one. But they do make some good points. I agree |
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BookwormJo wrote:
I've only done a little research on feminism, so I can't really give a well-informed answer. But I agree that men and women were made under God to be equal. How far the the feminism movement takes it . . . I'm not sure I agree with that. Also, (unpopular opinion. Ach, I've already gotten into debate about this *facepalm*) I support men's rights in a way. In modern days, there's a lot of emphasis on supporting women, and that's great. But I also believe everyone should have a voice, and with the amount of support for women and minorities, I think that's tipping the scales and not giving men enough of a safe space and support. No worries, BookwormJo! I appreciate your thoughts and value your opinions! Regarding men's rights, they do seem like a given because men have been able to exercise them freely for thousands of years without having their authority challenged while women haven't as much.... In a way, I can see your point. I think that society does place unrealistic expectations on men on the basis of their gender (e.g. men shouldn't be emotional or vulnerable). That definitely isn't fair. I still think that the issues of women and minorities need emphasis though because they've been overwhelmingly marginalized throughout history. |
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pathfinder4ever wrote:
Hmm, I don’t the feminist movement is a very good one. But they do make some good points. Would you be willing to share your thoughts?  You don't have to if you're not comfortable. |
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Khriz Kool Katz wrote:
Catchild77 wrote:
sci_geeek wrote:
Marriage is supposed to be a give-and-take thing from both sides of it. The husband and wife are to both make sacrifices for each other. That's the gist of it.I think it's definitely ok to support women's rights and whatnot, and be a Christian at the same time. The problem is being the type of feminist who believes all men have ulterior motives. I agree, sci_geeek! I personally identify as a feminist because I believe that men and women should have the same rights in society and the workplace.I believe that God supports women's rights, too. Sometimes, I just feel confused when Paul talks about women in the New Testament acting submissively towards their husbands and other things... Also, understand that in those cultures, males tended to be more dominant, since most of that lifestyle depended upon them and their posterity, which they said came from males. Thanks for clarifying, Khriz! I agree that marriage is about equal give-and-take between husbands and wives. But what does Paul mean when he said that God made Adam first and afterward he made Eve? Paul also said that, "And it was not Adam who was deceived. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through child-bearing, assuming they continue to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty." 1 Timothy 2:14-15 What does Paul mean by this? I'd appreciate your thoughts because I want to understand what Paul is talking about. |
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Catchild77 wrote:
Khriz Kool Katz wrote:
Paul is emphasizing the superiority of males, not because of the fact that they're males, but because they play a foundational roles in the building blocks of society: families. He's not belittling the value of females because they are females, but rather because they don't play as important as a part as males do in the family. Females are important because, as Paul said, they produce children and are typically the ones that educate and nurture their children through "faith, love, holiness, and modesty." Catchild77 wrote:
sci_geeek wrote:
Marriage is supposed to be a give-and-take thing from both sides of it. The husband and wife are to both make sacrifices for each other. That's the gist of it.I think it's definitely ok to support women's rights and whatnot, and be a Christian at the same time. The problem is being the type of feminist who believes all men have ulterior motives. I agree, sci_geeek! I personally identify as a feminist because I believe that men and women should have the same rights in society and the workplace.I believe that God supports women's rights, too. Sometimes, I just feel confused when Paul talks about women in the New Testament acting submissively towards their husbands and other things... Also, understand that in those cultures, males tended to be more dominant, since most of that lifestyle depended upon them and their posterity, which they said came from males. Thanks for clarifying, Khriz! I agree that marriage is about equal give-and-take between husbands and wives. But what does Paul mean when he said that God made Adam first and afterward he made Eve? Paul also said that, "And it was not Adam who was deceived. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through child-bearing, assuming they continue to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty." 1 Timothy 2:14-15 What does Paul mean by this? I'd appreciate your thoughts because I want to understand what Paul is talking about. |
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It's like when on Mother's Day, the church has a huge celebration, meal, and events that the men run. And on Father's Day, there is just the sermon on Fathers and a small cookie bag.
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wannabewritergirl wrote:
It's like when on Mother's Day, the church has a huge celebration, meal, and events that the men run. And on Father's Day, there is just the sermon on Fathers and a small cookie bag. I don't have any qualms with that. However, some touchy people might make it a big deal. |
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wannabewritergirl wrote:
It's like when on Mother's Day, the church has a huge celebration, meal, and events that the men run. And on Father's Day, there is just the sermon on Fathers and a small cookie bag. Well....my church did the same thing for both oarents in the morning....while the mothers got a special program in the evening.It was kinda bias ig |
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wannabewritergirl wrote:
Meh It's like when on Mother's Day, the church has a huge celebration, meal, and events that the men run. And on Father's Day, there is just the sermon on Fathers and a small cookie bag. Well....my church did the same thing for both oarents in the morning....while the mothers got a special program in the evening.It was kinda bias ig |
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Khriz Kool Katz wrote:
Catchild77 wrote:
Thank you for sharing, Khriz! I'm not sure that I agree, but I appreciate knowing your thoughts. Khriz Kool Katz wrote:
Paul is emphasizing the superiority of males, not because of the fact that they're males, but because they play a foundational roles in the building blocks of society: families. He's not belittling the value of females because they are females, but rather because they don't play as important as a part as males do in the family. Females are important because, as Paul said, they produce children and are typically the ones that educate and nurture their children through "faith, love, holiness, and modesty."Catchild77 wrote:
sci_geeek wrote:
Marriage is supposed to be a give-and-take thing from both sides of it. The husband and wife are to both make sacrifices for each other. That's the gist of it.I think it's definitely ok to support women's rights and whatnot, and be a Christian at the same time. The problem is being the type of feminist who believes all men have ulterior motives. I agree, sci_geeek! I personally identify as a feminist because I believe that men and women should have the same rights in society and the workplace.I believe that God supports women's rights, too. Sometimes, I just feel confused when Paul talks about women in the New Testament acting submissively towards their husbands and other things... Also, understand that in those cultures, males tended to be more dominant, since most of that lifestyle depended upon them and their posterity, which they said came from males. Thanks for clarifying, Khriz! I agree that marriage is about equal give-and-take between husbands and wives. But what does Paul mean when he said that God made Adam first and afterward he made Eve? Paul also said that, "And it was not Adam who was deceived. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through child-bearing, assuming they continue to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty." 1 Timothy 2:14-15 What does Paul mean by this? I'd appreciate your thoughts because I want to understand what Paul is talking about. |
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Catchild77 wrote:
Khriz Kool Katz wrote:
There was no way unfortunately for me to put in a less "offensive" way without distorting the facts. Catchild77 wrote:
Thank you for sharing, Khriz! I'm not sure that I agree, but I appreciate knowing your thoughts.Khriz Kool Katz wrote:
Paul is emphasizing the superiority of males, not because of the fact that they're males, but because they play a foundational roles in the building blocks of society: families. He's not belittling the value of females because they are females, but rather because they don't play as important as a part as males do in the family. Females are important because, as Paul said, they produce children and are typically the ones that educate and nurture their children through "faith, love, holiness, and modesty."Catchild77 wrote:
sci_geeek wrote:
Marriage is supposed to be a give-and-take thing from both sides of it. The husband and wife are to both make sacrifices for each other. That's the gist of it.I think it's definitely ok to support women's rights and whatnot, and be a Christian at the same time. The problem is being the type of feminist who believes all men have ulterior motives. I agree, sci_geeek! I personally identify as a feminist because I believe that men and women should have the same rights in society and the workplace.I believe that God supports women's rights, too. Sometimes, I just feel confused when Paul talks about women in the New Testament acting submissively towards their husbands and other things... Also, understand that in those cultures, males tended to be more dominant, since most of that lifestyle depended upon them and their posterity, which they said came from males. Thanks for clarifying, Khriz! I agree that marriage is about equal give-and-take between husbands and wives. But what does Paul mean when he said that God made Adam first and afterward he made Eve? Paul also said that, "And it was not Adam who was deceived. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through child-bearing, assuming they continue to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty." 1 Timothy 2:14-15 What does Paul mean by this? I'd appreciate your thoughts because I want to understand what Paul is talking about. |
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Tbh this is a very hard topic to discuss
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