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A question that requires a lot of thinking 2 months 2 weeks ago #82940

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If you go you are basically support their decision.
Jesus didn't support Zacchaeus sins but yet he went
Jesus didn't support alcohol at weddings but yet he went
Jesus didn't support the disciples sins but yet he went and dined with them


Jesus was friends with the sinner, but he didn't support the sin. If Zaccheus took Jesus to his house and committed a sin, Jesus would call him out on it, not sit back and watch. Again, Jesus did not go sin at the wedding because the "wine" he made was not fermented, it was basic grape juice. He did not have anyone commit a sin. There's nothing wrong with that, I drink it all the time. Again, Jesus was friends with sinners. He rebuked them from their sins and let them know that what they did was wrong. He did not support them on that basis. I would not go to the wedding, as that would be supporting the couple. By attending, it shows that I support the marriage and am celebrating the union.
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A question that requires a lot of thinking 2 months 2 weeks ago #82946

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Kwesi wrote:
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Kwesi wrote:
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SRNitro wrote:
jGod8865 wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
Yeah. Would watching a gay marriage be sinning? Why would watching some gay people be sin. Maybe being gay is a sin but watching the wedding?
Psalms 101:3 >>
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

I like the NIV version better:
I will not look with approval
on anything that is vile.
I hate what faithless people do;
I will have no part in it.

You're saying that anything that is bad we shouldn't look at. Well the Bible has a lot of things that are bad but we don't look at them with approval like in the NIV says. We see murder in the bible and hear about rape, does that mean we're sinning because we hear of bad things? I never said to approve of the wedding. And when it says "I will have no part in it," it means I will not rape, murder, or be gay like in the marriage. Why would watching a marriage with two men be terrible? Would it make me gay or something? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

As SDA's we are supposed to do what Jesus would do.
Now think about this. Would Jesus attend a same gender marriage?

No He would not so therefore we should not attend the wedding

Luke 5:29-32

"29 Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, 'Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?'

31 Jesus answered them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'"
After reading the passage you referenced, this is my conclusion: If Jesus attended a gay wedding, He would do so with the intention of calling them out of it somehow.

When Jesus met Zacchaeus, The priests were like "Oh no he is eating with sinners"
Jesus said “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.”

When Jesus met with Zacchaeus his intention was not to call him out. But to show him love and Kindness
And it worked.
And that is why Zacchaeus decided to give back to the poor.
You misunderstood me:
I didn't say call them out. I said call them out of it (that is, show them that they're wrong and that there is a better way).
The best way "to call them out of it" is to show them love and kindness.
When Jesus met Zacchaeus he didn't say oh man Zacchaeus why are you such a sinner.
He showed him love and compassion and then Zacchaeus changed his ways
I never explicitly stated that Jesus would show love and kindness because I assumed it was given. Obviously, if He calls someone out of a gay relationship, He would do so in the most gentle and loving way possible.
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A question that requires a lot of thinking 2 months 2 weeks ago #82955

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I'm just not going to say anything, for fear of losing potential friendships...
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SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
jGod8865 wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
Yeah. Would watching a gay marriage be sinning? Why would watching some gay people be sin. Maybe being gay is a sin but watching the wedding?
Psalms 101:3 >>
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

I like the NIV version better:
I will not look with approval
on anything that is vile.
I hate what faithless people do;
I will have no part in it.

You're saying that anything that is bad we shouldn't look at. Well the Bible has a lot of things that are bad but we don't look at them with approval like in the NIV says. We see murder in the bible and hear about rape, does that mean we're sinning because we hear of bad things? I never said to approve of the wedding. And when it says "I will have no part in it," it means I will not rape, murder, or be gay like in the marriage. Why would watching a marriage with two men be terrible? Would it make me gay or something? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

As SDA's we are supposed to do what Jesus would do.
Now think about this. Would Jesus attend a same gender marriage?

No He would not so therefore we should not attend the wedding

Luke 5:29-32

"29 Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, 'Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?'

31 Jesus answered them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'"
He ate and drank with them, not cheated, gambled, and sinned.
We shouldn't associate with the ungodly except for evangelistic purposes.

Did I ever say I was going to be gay when I joined the wedding? If Jesus wen to a casino would he gamble? No. If Jesus went to a homosexual marriage would he suddenly turn gay and say "YAY I SUPPORT GAYS!" No. He's just attending.
When you go to a football game, you're going because you either support one of the teams, or you find it interesting. You don't go and support the team you don't like by attending all their practise meets and games where your favourite team is not involved. You go because you support a team.
This analogy isn't perfect, but you get the idea. If you go to something, you're either curious, or you support it. Even if you just attend out of curiosity though you're supporting them because you're giving them money by buying tickets.
Even if you don't "support it" but you go along anyway, you're still giving other people the impression that you support them, and the Bible says that we are supposed to "avoid the appearance".
God allows us to feel the frailty of human love so we'll appreciate the strength of His.
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And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
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Kwesi wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
jGod8865 wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
Yeah. Would watching a gay marriage be sinning? Why would watching some gay people be sin. Maybe being gay is a sin but watching the wedding?
Psalms 101:3 >>
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

I like the NIV version better:
I will not look with approval
on anything that is vile.
I hate what faithless people do;
I will have no part in it.

You're saying that anything that is bad we shouldn't look at. Well the Bible has a lot of things that are bad but we don't look at them with approval like in the NIV says. We see murder in the bible and hear about rape, does that mean we're sinning because we hear of bad things? I never said to approve of the wedding. And when it says "I will have no part in it," it means I will not rape, murder, or be gay like in the marriage. Why would watching a marriage with two men be terrible? Would it make me gay or something? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

As SDA's we are supposed to do what Jesus would do.
Now think about this. Would Jesus attend a same gender marriage?

No He would not so therefore we should not attend the wedding

Luke 5:29-32

"29 Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, 'Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?'

31 Jesus answered them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'"
He ate and drank with them, not cheated, gambled, and sinned.
We shouldn't associate with the ungodly except for evangelistic purposes.

Did I ever say I was going to be gay when I joined the wedding? If Jesus wen to a casino would he gamble? No. If Jesus went to a homosexual marriage would he suddenly turn gay and say "YAY I SUPPORT GAYS!" No. He's just attending.
When you go to a football game, you're going because you either support one of the teams, or you find it interesting. You don't go and support the team you don't like by attending all their practise meets and games where your favourite team is not involved. You go because you support a team.
This analogy isn't perfect, but you get the idea. If you go to something, you're either curious, or you support it. Even if you just attend out of curiosity though you're supporting them because you're giving them money by buying tickets.
Even if you don't "support it" but you go along anyway, you're still giving other people the impression that you support them, and the Bible says that we are supposed to "avoid the appearance".
One Does not simply compare Football to a Wedding

Football is a sport. And a sport is entertainment

A wedding is a life long journey

And when Jesus went to the wedding at Cana. He didn't go to support anybody as far as I know. he went B/c he was invited
There's a difference between a wedding and a gay wedding. The Bible clearly states that the gay lifestyle is offensive to God. He loves the sinner but hates the sin.

And I don't care whether sport is a entertainment and a wedding is serious. It matters that if you attend something you're supporting it.
God allows us to feel the frailty of human love so we'll appreciate the strength of His.
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Ephesians 4:32
And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
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A question that requires a lot of thinking 2 months 2 weeks ago #83000

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bush possum wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
jGod8865 wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
Yeah. Would watching a gay marriage be sinning? Why would watching some gay people be sin. Maybe being gay is a sin but watching the wedding?
Psalms 101:3 >>
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

I like the NIV version better:
I will not look with approval
on anything that is vile.
I hate what faithless people do;
I will have no part in it.

You're saying that anything that is bad we shouldn't look at. Well the Bible has a lot of things that are bad but we don't look at them with approval like in the NIV says. We see murder in the bible and hear about rape, does that mean we're sinning because we hear of bad things? I never said to approve of the wedding. And when it says "I will have no part in it," it means I will not rape, murder, or be gay like in the marriage. Why would watching a marriage with two men be terrible? Would it make me gay or something? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

As SDA's we are supposed to do what Jesus would do.
Now think about this. Would Jesus attend a same gender marriage?

No He would not so therefore we should not attend the wedding

Luke 5:29-32

"29 Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, 'Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?'

31 Jesus answered them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'"
He ate and drank with them, not cheated, gambled, and sinned.
We shouldn't associate with the ungodly except for evangelistic purposes.

Did I ever say I was going to be gay when I joined the wedding? If Jesus wen to a casino would he gamble? No. If Jesus went to a homosexual marriage would he suddenly turn gay and say "YAY I SUPPORT GAYS!" No. He's just attending.
When you go to a football game, you're going because you either support one of the teams, or you find it interesting. You don't go and support the team you don't like by attending all their practise meets and games where your favourite team is not involved. You go because you support a team.
This analogy isn't perfect, but you get the idea. If you go to something, you're either curious, or you support it. Even if you just attend out of curiosity though you're supporting them because you're giving them money by buying tickets.
Even if you don't "support it" but you go along anyway, you're still giving other people the impression that you support them, and the Bible says that we are supposed to "avoid the appearance".
One Does not simply compare Football to a Wedding

Football is a sport. And a sport is entertainment

A wedding is a life long journey

And when Jesus went to the wedding at Cana. He didn't go to support anybody as far as I know. he went B/c he was invited
There's a difference between a wedding and a gay wedding. The Bible clearly states that the gay lifestyle is offensive to God. He loves the sinner but hates the sin.


I agree
And I don't care whether sport is a entertainment and a wedding is serious. It matters that if you attend something you're supporting it.
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A question that requires a lot of thinking 2 months 2 weeks ago #83026

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Kwesi wrote:
mittens92999 wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
im a beekeeper wrote:
If you go you are basically support their decision.
Jesus didn't support Zacchaeus sins but yet he went
Jesus didn't support alcohol at weddings but yet he went
Jesus didn't support the disciples sins but yet he went and dined with them


Jesus was friends with the sinner, but he didn't support the sin. If Zaccheus took Jesus to his house and committed a sin, Jesus would call him out on it, not sit back and watch. Again, Jesus did not go sin at the wedding because the "wine" he made was not fermented, it was basic grape juice. He did not have anyone commit a sin. There's nothing wrong with that, I drink it all the time. Again, Jesus was friends with sinners. He rebuked them from their sins and let them know that what they did was wrong. He did not support them on that basis. I would not go to the wedding, as that would be supporting the couple. By attending, it shows that I support the marriage and am celebrating the union.

And He said to them, “Draw some out now, and take it to the master of the feast.” And they took it. 9 When the master of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and did not know where it came from (but the servants who had drawn the water knew), the master of the feast called the bridegroom. 10 And he said to him, “Every man at the beginning sets out the good wine, and when the guests have well drunk, then the inferior. You have kept the good wine until now!”

The Greek word used was Oinos which means wine.
In that time during weddings they drank alcoholic wine not Welch 100% Grape Juice
And to prevent what you call "Grape Juice" from turning into wine they needed pasteurization

And Even if the wine Jesus made was Grape Juice. The people at the wedding already had alcohol wine.

Timothy 5:23 No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities.
And if you still want to argue do you think the wine used above was Grape Juice

Back then their wine was not very strong or very fermented as much as it is now. Now there are some wines where you just drink a shot and get drunk. it would take them all day to get drunk.
Acts 2:13-15
13 Others mocking said, “They are full of new wine.”
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. 15 For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day.

So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
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A question that requires a lot of thinking 2 months 1 week ago #83134

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Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
jGod8865 wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
Yeah. Would watching a gay marriage be sinning? Why would watching some gay people be sin. Maybe being gay is a sin but watching the wedding?
Psalms 101:3 >>
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

I like the NIV version better:
I will not look with approval
on anything that is vile.
I hate what faithless people do;
I will have no part in it.

You're saying that anything that is bad we shouldn't look at. Well the Bible has a lot of things that are bad but we don't look at them with approval like in the NIV says. We see murder in the bible and hear about rape, does that mean we're sinning because we hear of bad things? I never said to approve of the wedding. And when it says "I will have no part in it," it means I will not rape, murder, or be gay like in the marriage. Why would watching a marriage with two men be terrible? Would it make me gay or something? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

As SDA's we are supposed to do what Jesus would do.
Now think about this. Would Jesus attend a same gender marriage?

No He would not so therefore we should not attend the wedding

Luke 5:29-32

"29 Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, 'Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?'

31 Jesus answered them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'"
After reading the passage you referenced, this is my conclusion: If Jesus attended a gay wedding, He would do so with the intention of calling them out of it somehow.

When Jesus met Zacchaeus, The priests were like "Oh no he is eating with sinners"
Jesus said “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.”

When Jesus met with Zacchaeus his intention was not to call him out. But to show him love and Kindness
And it worked.
And that is why Zacchaeus decided to give back to the poor.
You misunderstood me:
I didn't say call them out. I said call them out of it (that is, show them that they're wrong and that there is a better way).
The best way "to call them out of it" is to show them love and kindness.
When Jesus met Zacchaeus he didn't say oh man Zacchaeus why are you such a sinner.
He showed him love and compassion and then Zacchaeus changed his ways
I never explicitly stated that Jesus would show love and kindness because I assumed it was given. Obviously, if He calls someone out of a gay relationship, He would do so in the most gentle and loving way possible.
You have to think outside the box here Sir. Do you really think someone "calling them out of it" will work most of the time
They already have ppl criticizing them for what they are doing, the last thing they need is someone judging them.


When you show the Love and Kindness you don't have to call them out of it

When Jesus met with Zacchaeus he didn't bring the case of him being a tax collector. Zacchaeus himself realized his sin
You're still not understanding me.
Perhaps a better way to phrase "call him out of it" it "show him his error." Jesus' purpose is to get people to come to Him, and to do that He must first make them see their error, whether by telling them explicitly, or by getting them to see themselves, like He did with Zacchaeus.
You keep missing my point: the point is, if Jesus attended a gay wedding, He won't really support their marriage. He will have a plan to convert them either during the wedding or some time after. His purpose would be to knock on their hearts, not celebrate their marriage.
Hopefully that clears things up once and for all.
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Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
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Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
jGod8865 wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
Yeah. Would watching a gay marriage be sinning? Why would watching some gay people be sin. Maybe being gay is a sin but watching the wedding?
Psalms 101:3 >>
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

I like the NIV version better:
I will not look with approval
on anything that is vile.
I hate what faithless people do;
I will have no part in it.

You're saying that anything that is bad we shouldn't look at. Well the Bible has a lot of things that are bad but we don't look at them with approval like in the NIV says. We see murder in the bible and hear about rape, does that mean we're sinning because we hear of bad things? I never said to approve of the wedding. And when it says "I will have no part in it," it means I will not rape, murder, or be gay like in the marriage. Why would watching a marriage with two men be terrible? Would it make me gay or something? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

As SDA's we are supposed to do what Jesus would do.
Now think about this. Would Jesus attend a same gender marriage?

No He would not so therefore we should not attend the wedding

Luke 5:29-32

"29 Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, 'Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?'

31 Jesus answered them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'"
After reading the passage you referenced, this is my conclusion: If Jesus attended a gay wedding, He would do so with the intention of calling them out of it somehow.

When Jesus met Zacchaeus, The priests were like "Oh no he is eating with sinners"
Jesus said “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.”

When Jesus met with Zacchaeus his intention was not to call him out. But to show him love and Kindness
And it worked.
And that is why Zacchaeus decided to give back to the poor.
You misunderstood me:
I didn't say call them out. I said call them out of it (that is, show them that they're wrong and that there is a better way).
The best way "to call them out of it" is to show them love and kindness.
When Jesus met Zacchaeus he didn't say oh man Zacchaeus why are you such a sinner.
He showed him love and compassion and then Zacchaeus changed his ways
I never explicitly stated that Jesus would show love and kindness because I assumed it was given. Obviously, if He calls someone out of a gay relationship, He would do so in the most gentle and loving way possible.
You have to think outside the box here Sir. Do you really think someone "calling them out of it" will work most of the time
They already have ppl criticizing them for what they are doing, the last thing they need is someone judging them.


When you show the Love and Kindness you don't have to call them out of it

When Jesus met with Zacchaeus he didn't bring the case of him being a tax collector. Zacchaeus himself realized his sin
You're still not understanding me.
Perhaps a better way to phrase "call him out of it" it "show him his error." Jesus' purpose is to get people to come to Him, and to do that He must first make them see their error, whether by telling them explicitly, or by getting them to see themselves, like He did with Zacchaeus.
You keep missing my point: the point is, if Jesus attended a gay wedding, He won't really support their marriage. He will have a plan to convert them either during the wedding or some time after. His purpose would be to knock on their hearts, not celebrate their marriage.
Hopefully that clears things up once and for all.
That is my point, But yall are like

"If u go to the wedding it is a sin"
Maybe others were, but I wasn't
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Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
SirGeneralCliche wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
jGod8865 wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
bush possum wrote:
SRNitro wrote:
Yeah. Would watching a gay marriage be sinning? Why would watching some gay people be sin. Maybe being gay is a sin but watching the wedding?
Psalms 101:3 >>
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

I like the NIV version better:
I will not look with approval
on anything that is vile.
I hate what faithless people do;
I will have no part in it.

You're saying that anything that is bad we shouldn't look at. Well the Bible has a lot of things that are bad but we don't look at them with approval like in the NIV says. We see murder in the bible and hear about rape, does that mean we're sinning because we hear of bad things? I never said to approve of the wedding. And when it says "I will have no part in it," it means I will not rape, murder, or be gay like in the marriage. Why would watching a marriage with two men be terrible? Would it make me gay or something? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

As SDA's we are supposed to do what Jesus would do.
Now think about this. Would Jesus attend a same gender marriage?

No He would not so therefore we should not attend the wedding

Luke 5:29-32

"29 Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, 'Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?'

31 Jesus answered them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'"
After reading the passage you referenced, this is my conclusion: If Jesus attended a gay wedding, He would do so with the intention of calling them out of it somehow.

When Jesus met Zacchaeus, The priests were like "Oh no he is eating with sinners"
Jesus said “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.”

When Jesus met with Zacchaeus his intention was not to call him out. But to show him love and Kindness
And it worked.
And that is why Zacchaeus decided to give back to the poor.
You misunderstood me:
I didn't say call them out. I said call them out of it (that is, show them that they're wrong and that there is a better way).
The best way "to call them out of it" is to show them love and kindness.
When Jesus met Zacchaeus he didn't say oh man Zacchaeus why are you such a sinner.
He showed him love and compassion and then Zacchaeus changed his ways
I never explicitly stated that Jesus would show love and kindness because I assumed it was given. Obviously, if He calls someone out of a gay relationship, He would do so in the most gentle and loving way possible.
You have to think outside the box here Sir. Do you really think someone "calling them out of it" will work most of the time
They already have ppl criticizing them for what they are doing, the last thing they need is someone judging them.


When you show the Love and Kindness you don't have to call them out of it

When Jesus met with Zacchaeus he didn't bring the case of him being a tax collector. Zacchaeus himself realized his sin
You're still not understanding me.
Perhaps a better way to phrase "call him out of it" it "show him his error." Jesus' purpose is to get people to come to Him, and to do that He must first make them see their error, whether by telling them explicitly, or by getting them to see themselves, like He did with Zacchaeus.
You keep missing my point: the point is, if Jesus attended a gay wedding, He won't really support their marriage. He will have a plan to convert them either during the wedding or some time after. His purpose would be to knock on their hearts, not celebrate their marriage.
Hopefully that clears things up once and for all.
That is my point, But yall are like

"If u go to the wedding it is a sin"
it is not a sin, but you would be supporting them on something that God would not approve of.

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I don't think I would go, since It is against the Bible I mean, I would still be kind to my best friend and just tell him/her how It's against my beliefs.
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Honestly, I would go. Not because I support their relationship, but because I support my friendship with them. I mean, what could be worse? I think it would be great opportunity to share what I believe with other people. Other supporters would wonder "why is there a Christian in here? I thought they don't support LGBT community?" I think their thoughts of the SDA community and their hard-headedness would raise a little bit. That's what I think about it.
I don't think two boys together is right; not condoning it at all. I just think that everyone is sinful and each in their own way. Why would I be upset at someone else for falling in love with somebody with the same gender? There are worse people out there to worry about. I have no control over that, and not going to the wedding wouldn't do anything to help them to know any better; it'd just make them hate me for being 'judgmental.'

I thought I saw someone say "hate the sin, not the sinner." I agree with that.

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i would go because there is nothing wrong about being gay, unless t goes against all the persons beliefs. it was their descision not mine, so i should respect that.
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No.

I feel uneasy with gay people.

Although I would still send a gift since they are my friend.


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ClimberforGod wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
ClimberforGod wrote:
i would go because there is nothing wrong about being gay, unless t goes against all the persons beliefs. it was their descision not mine, so i should respect that.
There is definitely something wrong about being Gay

that,my friend is strictly an opinion.

my mom's friend could not help it. he never could go outwith girls comfortably.
The Bible says that it's a sin, and that it's offensive to God.
Also, Paul writes about adulterers, fornicators, gays (not the word, but it describes them), and a few others and says that such as some of you were, so it is definitely possible to change. Phillipians 4:13
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ClimberforGod wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
ClimberforGod wrote:
i would go because there is nothing wrong about being gay, unless t goes against all the persons beliefs. it was their descision not mine, so i should respect that.
There is definitely something wrong about being Gay

that,my friend is strictly an opinion.

my mom's friend could not help it. he never could go out with girls comfortably.

it is not a sin not to be attracted to girls. But it is a sin to act on that feeling or thought.

1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
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horsegirl04 wrote:
ClimberforGod wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
ClimberforGod wrote:
i would go because there is nothing wrong about being gay, unless t goes against all the persons beliefs. it was their descision not mine, so i should respect that.
There is definitely something wrong about being Gay

that,my friend is strictly an opinion.

my mom's friend could not help it. he never could go out with girls comfortably.

it is not a sin not to be attracted to girls. But it is a sin to act on that feeling or thought.

1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I agree with horsegirl.

If someone's not attracted to girls, so what?

But if they act on their thoughts, that's a sin.

Like, have you ever got in trouble for being tempted to steal? No, but if you did steal, then you would be in trouble.

We're always going to be tempted and have nasty thoughts come into our heads as long as we're on this sinful earth. We don't necessarily have control over whether or not they enter our thoughts, but we do have control over what we do with them and whether or not we entertain them.

I've met people who have gotten over homosexuality, and they told me that it was hard. But, obviously, they could do it.

Effort does not equal impossibility.

I believe that most people who have problems with homosexuality can get help and fix what's wrong if they really, truly want to get better and put in a lot of effort.

So, in short, I believe that everyone's gonna have bad thoughts, and that's not a sin, as long as we recognize the fact that they're bad and get rid of them or get help as soon as possible. :)
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emmy01 wrote:
horsegirl04 wrote:
ClimberforGod wrote:
Kwesi wrote:
ClimberforGod wrote:
i would go because there is nothing wrong about being gay, unless t goes against all the persons beliefs. it was their descision not mine, so i should respect that.
There is definitely something wrong about being Gay

that,my friend is strictly an opinion.

my mom's friend could not help it. he never could go out with girls comfortably.

it is not a sin not to be attracted to girls. But it is a sin to act on that feeling or thought.

1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I agree with horsegirl.

If someone's not attracted to girls, so what?

But if they act on their thoughts, that's a sin.

Like, have you ever got in trouble for being tempted to steal? No, but if you did steal, then you would be in trouble.

We're always going to be tempted and have nasty thoughts come into our heads as long as we're on this sinful earth. We don't necessarily have control over whether or not they enter our thoughts, but we do have control over what we do with them and whether or not we entertain them.

I've met people who have gotten over homosexuality, and they told me that it was hard. But, obviously, they could do it.

Effort does not equal impossibility.

I believe that most people who have problems with homosexuality can get help and fix what's wrong if they really, truly want to get better and put in a lot of effort.

So, in short, I believe that everyone's gonna have bad thoughts, and that's not a sin, as long as we recognize the fact that they're bad and get rid of them or get help as soon as possible. :)

Revelation 22:15
15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:5
5 For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

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I will strengthen you and help you;
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